and chickens could not compete with hazardous waste as a cash crop since farmers typically were paid anywhere from $20 to $50 per drum of waste dumped on their land.
At the worst of those sites called Goose Farm drums were tossed into a pit that was 300 feet long and 100 wide.
Dr. Yablokov found ONE MILLION deaths due to Chernobyl. 5. Dr. Wing found that lung cancers rose dramatically in people exposed to the Three Mile Island radiation plume. 6. Dr. Gould
Their meat and milk are still technically safe to consume and the disease doesn't affect humans
Dead pigs are bought by those dealers for meat and skin. Don't ask where they end up!
Spanky Thomas Skipper Porkchop Mohammid Elvis Sandi Bela Yankee Fergie Murphy Limburger and some 300 other dogs and cats that reside at the company's Palatability Assessment Resource
The cooking process for the chicken in a microwaveable entrã Â e imparts a mild to nonexistent flavor.
Sigh this article is harolding better kibble based off more meat products. Auroria's article is based off cheaper cardboard-ish kibble.
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raw meat with the bone (never feed a dog cooked bones. Premium kibble is still kibble.
The meat processing industry (for human consumption) generates about 47 billion pounds of waste per year of which 23%goes into pet foods.
I feed both our dogs on nothing but chicken thighs pork neck bones and occasional beef. They have sweet breath white teeth silky coats no hot spots no fleas bright eyes and calm energy.
and no smell like rotting meat but they want their dogs to eat it. You should be upset with your peers in society for being so naive.
Which Came First, The Chicken Or The Egg? Chickens as a species became chickens through a long slow process of evolution.
At some point a chicken-like bird produced an offspring that due to some mutation in its DNA crossed the threshold from mere chicken likeness into chicken actuality.
That is to say a proto-chicken gave birth to a real-life official chicken. And since that real-life official chicken came out of its own egg we can say that the egg came first.
Another way to look at the question would be to ask which came first in evolutionary history.
Once again the egg takes precedence. Many characteristics of the modern avian egg namely an oblong asymmetrical shape and a hardened shell were in place before birds diverged from dinosaurs about 150 million years ago.
Yes there us a chance of a mutation into a chicken but there is also a chance it mutates unto a dinosaur.
The probability function only collapses once the chicken is out of the egg. The question that concerns me more is did where the first chicken find its rooster?
Chickens as a species became chickens through a long slow process of evolution. At some point a chicken-like bird produced an offspring that due to some mutation in its DNA crossed the threshold from mere chicken likeness into chicken actuality.
Sounds more like part of creed than a scientific argument.''And the bird made chicken walked among the avians who knew it not'is a much more poetic way of saying the same darn thing.
You know unless evolution took a rib next that first chicken would have had to reproduce with something other than a chicken.
It all stays on the same branch unless that chicken finds a way to make two chickens.
Another way to look at it...would be created that God the chicken first. Oh but that's not as scientific as saying a long time ago in a primordial pool far far away...
Its cute but I would much rather hear about the science. I remember reading something about OC-17 being produced by the chicken to help form the egg shell.
That is a far more interesting conversation than corpus gallinaceo. What came first POPSCI the website or the writers for POPSCI lol.
Oh and for as the chicken and egg question Life came first and multiplied. But what IS a chicken?
Since all life is constantly in a state of becoming or changing then all chickens are distinct individuals
and cannot be grouped for the purpose of this question. Each chicken from the first to the last is an individual.
So we see that a chicken came from an egg in each instance. Therefore an egg always comes before a chickeni watched a youtube video of Chris Langan answering this quesion the same waykillert
-I think youre wrong. The chicken one way or another can be grouped within a spectrum of dna.
So even if one chicken species varies from another there is a point in their evolution that we can say this is now a chicken.
And that change would have occurred-most likely in the embryo. Its like saying a tree falling in the forest doesnt make a sound
Now it is possible that the egg wasnt genetically changed as an embryo to make it the chicken
and that a pre-chicken bird was changed genetically enviromentally to the point where it entered that spectrum of chicken dna.
maybe it was really close to a chicken but had 2x more feathers and of a different color and 3 feet but enviromental changes caused the chicken to mutate as such to become within the spectrum of chicken dna.
Nooneyouknow Why do you say the chicken has to reproduce with something other than a chicken?
Why couldn't it have siblings cousins parents etc that it could mate with? All that is needed is for the more chicken like birds to out-breed the rest over generations
and presto you have a new species. The truth is all of the above contributed to the chicken.
So God did not create chickens. People and horny birds did. Goo came first then life came from goo and then for
Sorry but an embryo is not a chicken. So the egg still comes first. lol Just imagine
@Killert Why do you say the chicken has to reproduce with something other than a chicken?*
*Breath*Because the FIRST chicken would be the ONLY chicken in existence until you had a SECOND chicken.
Now chances are this chicken is either too horny or too short lived to wait for another chicken to evolve
so its going to have to settle with a member of another already existing species. This is an unavoidable roadblock for evolution this new bird's genetic material is added merely to that of an existing species where evolution requires it branches off on it's own.
If a chicken-like species reproduced over millions of years and became chicken proper that still wouldn't be evolution.
Further more if reproduction had anything to do with it then more rapidly reproducing species like rabbits should have outpaces us long ago
Rabbits as far as we can tell have always been rabbits. Some species such as beavers we know for a fact have not changed for millions of years.
Chickens lay chicken eggs. Fish lay fish eggs (if you can call it laying) so wouldn't neanderchickens lay neanderchicken eggs?
or a a chicken will have to hatch from a neanderchicken egg. Both seem kinda funky. And as was pointed out above by someone
I don't know once the first chicken hatched it would have to mate with a neanderchicken
Anyway my point is that the chicken would have to come first since the egg whence it hatches wouldn't be a chicken egg by virtue of not being laid by a chicken.@
@Nooneyouknow You seem to be ignoring that we DO know what species chickens come from
because we can check their DNA and we can do the same for any creature.
They came from other chicken like species and those older species are still here along side the new chickens.
So evolution has been observed in many cases. Keep in mind that chickens are only one example. There is nothing to stop a mutation resulting in twin unicorns for example who are able to mate with each other
and instantly start a new species. Its far fetched but DNA makes it possible. As for variation's why jump to rabbits?
I doubt you could even tell the difference between chickens and their similar non-closely unrelated cousins.
Betting on DNA to NOT evolve is worse than your odds of winning the lottery.
To relate this to chickens it would be like having an 8 pound fryer and 1. 4 ton roaster) Still if you have a very large stool
(or very deep ditch) the two dogs could interbreed even though they have been separated geologically for a long time and have been bred to be distinct.
You wouldn't have a proto-chicken who lays an egg that'd be considered a chicken there'd be dozens
Well what did the first chicken come out of...Haha-Neanderchicken! Given that we know less than 1%of what there is to be known the missing 99%will always be filtered through ones belief in a creator.
The Chicken. God did not create imperfect nor incomplete things living or otherwise. Genesis is clear that he created man
At some point a chicken-like bird produced an offspring that due to some mutation in its DNA crossed the threshold from mere chicken likeness into chicken actuality.
Every chicken and the egg that it lays are the same species. There is no dividing line at a single generation.
Long before there were chickens there were fish and reptile species that reproduced via eggs. Thus the egg existed long before the chicken.
It's odd to me how anyone denies biological evolution as a fact an obvious one at this point in time.
God made chickens. Put man in charge of chickens. Now we raise them eat them and their eggs.
Chicken came first. The Evolutionists say it is easier to believe the imaginary theory of a dead person which can't be proved
but one must believe. Takes just as much faith to believe in the Theory of evolution as it does to believe in the Theory of God Created Chickens.
The Wizards of Smart continue to propagate such nonsense and dupes keep following it. No matter how you slice it there was something before the supposed event then where did the dinosaurs come from?
God Created Chickens is a religion. If you believe in God Created Chickens then there is no amount of facts
or proof that will dissuade your belief. So Evolutionist have created their own religion with their own Gods (Magic Goo Creators) with their own Profits (Al gore) and their own Apocalypse (End of Time.
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#Are Birds Evolving To Not Get Hit By Cars? If you've ever had the soul-crushing misfortune of hitting a bird
Whiter rabbits will always do better in snow than black rabbits shorter-legged boars will always do better in denser jungles) The still unproven part of the evolutionary theory (it's still a theory) is Macro Evolution.
In 2009 US AIRWAYS flight 1549 made a crash landing in the Hudson river after geese knocked out both engines.
It's incredibly unlikely that model airplanes will regularly pose as great a threat as geese
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and Islay Scotch though the latter is the only option with hints of bacon fat). Most varieties share an oaky flavor
bacon fat or buttery? sounds yech. I want a clean smokey peaty flavour. Should I crave honey
and for bacon an buttery I'll get a breakfast. Where do these tasters get their vocabulary from.
Or grass. or bacon fat. You just have to THINK K
#Apple Files For Patent On Snap-Band Watch Thingthere's been a lot of chatter about Apple creating a smartwatch--a wearable computer that syncs with a smartphone--on such publications as um this one as of late.
And in a recent interview the Icelander responsible for destroying hundreds of endangered fin whales has announced he will literally use whale oil to fuel the ships for killing more endangered whales (also to export mass produced canned whale meat to Japan.
if belching bovines and manure piles are having such a devastating effect on our global temperature shouldn't temperatures have plummeted in 1879 with the wholesale slaughter of 5 million buffalo?
Yeah sure 5 million buffalo but that was before we wiped out half the forest of the earth
Didn't the unfortunate destruction of 5 million buffalo help global cooling in a significant way?
Professors Scientist World Leaders Ham Radio Operators and Every Astronomer will have its eyes on This Event
if it were my backyard or my barbecue or whatnot. So I sympathize with people who would find that intrusive he said in an interview.
or undercooked meat or questionable shellfish but by leafy green vegetables. Of the 9. 6 million cases of food-borne illness reported each year 51 percent are caused by contaminated plants;
All the meat and poultry commodities combined--beef game pork and poultry--were responsible for 22 percent of illness
and your favorite chicken tartare beware: tainted greens may make you sick but poultry is still more likely to kill you. stomach flu--deposited by food handlersdoes this mean the migrants are taking dumps in the field LOLHOW much of this effect is down to the fact that we are all hyper aware of handling raw meats
and raw eggs and even if we didn't are most likely to eat them cooked
However moving into hospitalizations sees a big rise in meats and dairy while the deaths group I believe is dominated by meat (poultry
I'd assume).@@buell I doubt artificial fertilizers and pesticides will harbour the norovirus. So why mention them?
Although there was no evidence of the saola Gilbert did find DNA from the Annamite striped rabbit.
Scientists believe that this rabbit (and its reddish rump) might be hiding in the same areas as the saola.
And here I was hoping that they were going to implant GPS chips in the leaches
That means if you want to hunt deer elk moose antelope ducks geese cougars and now wolves you have to buy a permit.
#DNA Test Finds Horse Meat In UK Hamburgersthe Irish version of the FDA called the FSAI has found distinctly non-beef animal protein in ground meat labeled beef in some supermarkets.
Meat from two Irish processing plants has been found to contain substantial portions of pig and curiously horse DNA.
Of 27 samples analyzed 23 were found to contain pork and 10 were found to contain horsemeat.
In one sample collected from Tesco--a major supermarket chain all over the UK--approximately 29%of the meat was found to be horsemeat.
Looks like it's not just seafood that isn't quite what it claims to be.
and it's likely that many would have no objection to eating pig or even horsemeat.
Horse is a traditional meat in some areas of France among other places. The pork can be explained away by the fact that both pork
and beef are processed at the same plant though nobody seems to have any idea how a significant amount of horsemeat made its way into the ground beef.
But there are two major concerns here. The first is for people with dietary restrictions: neither pig nor horse is kosher
and pig is not halal. The second is that even though these samples of meat are safe it does not speak very highly of the regulation in place for meat processing especially in the UK
which has had the worst experience with BSE commonly known as mad cow disease of any country in the world.
or meat from China they all be dead including their pets. Don't care what's in the meat
so long as it tastes good eh? Guess you'll want to try this Soylent Green then...Well that's a little disturbingsoylent Green (human meat i presume?..
oh as i said if its well regulated and sanitary enough...---Type 0. 72)= We are still just cleaver monkeys!
and just banning beef import or looking at beef products only...would be a disaster...
i'm pretty sure that horse meat is supposed to be leaner and more nutritious for you than beef and pork. it'd make sense
if some local places put horse meat in their burgers. to mars or bust! It isn't people it isn't deadly so dark beef can be on the menu.
LOL...I can't believe how many seem to not care about what is in their food...
and furthermore don't seem to mind that it is undocumented. Don't invite me over for dinner!
I gave up meat many years ago so perhaps my comment isn't worth much.
However if I was eating beef and discovered something like this was going on where I live
I'd stop pretty quickly. The real danger is of course that it indicates lack of regulation
The point is that you should know what is in the meat you are eating.
While the beef in the burgers is 100%Irish and butchered in Ireland the factory that made the burgers added protein to them
and contains non-beef proteins. Meat in Ireland is tracked from farm to plate the regulations are very tight.
Nothing wrong with eating horse meat though as long as you know what your eating and you aren't squeamish about it.
I thank you for your time good day sirs and madams!@@strange009 firstly it sounds strange to
me that one would add protein to beef which is rich in protein but perhaps that is so.
However the article states that there was foreign DNA in the meat! There's no DNA in protein.
So horsemeat has been found in Tesco Products. A spokesman says it's bollocks. A woman has been taken to hospital after eating horsemeat burgers.
Her condition is said to be stable. I expect this only relates to those mini-burgers you have as snacks.
Are you in favour of Horsemeat in your burgers? Yay or Neigh? I had a Tesco burger and now
I really hope they launch a steward's inquiry into the Tesco horsemeat scandal. We must find out hoof to blame.
Soylent green wasn't human meat. It was processed protein cake that included protein from dead human bodies.
In the great ordering of taste and texture I put European horse ABOVE European beef.
whether humans ate meat that much anyway. But it's the closest thing to a good diet that has a name.
We can eat salads piled high with grilled chicken and all sorts of exotic fruits and vegetables every day.
One patient avoided eating cauliflower broccoli Chinese food stir fry snow peas pretzels chips and steak. Other than that it sounds convenient (unless you live in China) albeit a little gross.
One patient avoided eating cauliflower broccoli Chinese food stir fry snow peas pretzels chips and steak. Other than that it sounds convenient (unless you live in China) albeit a little gross.
which you can think of basically like an airplane wing. These curved shapes create the force known as lift.
The move will likely put wind under the wings of the fledging international fossil fuel divestment movement
#German Boars Are Too Radioactive To Eatin Germany boar meat is considered a delicacy consumed in various forms such as salami and boar leg.
You can't get H3n2v from eating pork. The study did find the virus was pretty widespread.
and pork is still safe to eat but the disease is deadly to piglets. Breakfast prognosis:
Pricier pork products are definitely here but as Bloomberg Businessweek reports the higher prices haven t deterred bacon fanatics from their morning ritual.
And some groups are even estimating that prices could fall this autumn as producers adjust to the new reality.
Rotting vegetable and animal matter offal and garbage were burned. The life and habits of the men were regulated carefully Government dining halls furnished good meals well cooked
#Ticks That Can Make People Severely Allergic To Meat Are Spreading In The U s . But a few hours after dinner Abley started itching like mad.
And it wasn t just the beef he was allergic to; it was practically all red meat.
I ve always said I think it s karma says Abley now 73 a lifetime resident of Virginia.
Abley is one of at least 1500 people in the United states who suffer allergic reactions after eating meat
And as the tick spreads more and more cases of meat allergies are being reported. In one area of Long island New york for example one doctor we spoke with has seen an increase of 200 cases in the past three years p from practically zero in 2011.
The connection between Lone Star ticks and meat allergies in America first came to light in 2008.
Around the same time more and more healthy patients began reporting meat allergies (one of them being Abley.
The symptoms began three to four hours after eating meals that contained beef or pork.
which makes the tickborne meat allergy so surprising. Moreover the patients of Commins and Platts-Mills weren born t with the condition
In a series of revealing experiments they sampled blood from their patients with meat allergies
meanwhile the same antibodies from people without the meat allergy did not glom onto the tick proteins.
Despite identifying the vessel for the mysterious meat allergy Commins and Platts-Mills say many questions remain unanswered about the condition.
Meanwhile many of the meat allergy sufferers have had to adjust to a new normal. Abley initially refused to accept his diagnosis experimenting with different meats to see
if he could tolerate them. He tried pork and lamb but both caused reactions. He finally narrowed down his list of acceptable meats to chicken
and seafood but all others he had to avoid consistently lest he wind up in the hospital.
So he decided to become a vegetarian for the most part ot by choice but to save his life.
His food can t contain red meat of any kind or he could have another attack.
which is made from meat byproducts. It s been really really difficult'cause I am a meat eater says Abley.
Fortunately I live in an area where seafood is plentiful. But I love beef and I love pork so
I missed it for years. However there is a spot of good news for those who fall prey to the Lone Star tick s bite.
The effects seem to be temporary lasting a few months or a few years s long as you don t get bit again.
From these he built something like a beef chart for human beings with caloric content listed for every cut of person-meat.
The lungs liver and alimentary canal each provide roughly 1500 calories while the brain spinal cord and nerve trunks together account for 2700.
It s also worth considering that about half the calories in human meat come from adipose tissue.
When it comes to chickens geneticist Carl Schmidt is working to prepare the most-dined-upon North american breeds to withstand greater heat stress in coming decades.
in order to determine the best approach for getting those good heat-resistant genes into American chickens without taking along all the genetic baggage as Schmidt calls it that s unnecessary to duplicate in the hybrid chickens.
It could take around 10 generations of chickens carefully bred to arrive at new heat-resistant breeds that can successfully reproduce on their own.
#How Soon Might We Have modified Genetically Meat? There are no genetically engineered animals sold for human consumption right now.
As you might guess the lack of genetically modified meat on the market isn't because of a lack of technology.
Still I was surprised at how far along the development of GM meat is after I read this new feature from the biologists'magazine The Scientist.
whose milk is designed to prevent deadly diarrhea in children and chickens in which bird flu viruses don't reproduce.
In spite of public opposition and a lack of funding GM meat research has continued to advance. One major trend:
The lovely sylvan turnouts with barbecue pits and picnic tables maintained by the states for rest
#What Does It Take to Make Meat From Stem Cells? Made with some breadcrumbs egg and 20000 lab-grown cow muscle cells the world's first lab-grown burger made its debut last year.
It was a proof of concept evidence that you can make meat in lab. The technology is too difficult and expensive to show up grocery stores any time soon.
In the future however proponents hope so-called cultured meat will get cheaper. If it does making beef from stem cells could be an environmentally friendly alternative to you know killing animals for food.
Raising cattle takes up a lot of arable land and water and creates greenhouse gas emissions. Engineers working on in vitro meat hope their creations will be less harmful on the environment.
But will they ever get there One new paper published yesterday in the journal Trends in Biotechnology aimed to find out.
It outlined a new method for growing ground beef in a lab different from both the technique used in last year's burger
It also crunches some numbers on how much this animal-free beef would cost. Growing meat in lab is resource-intense and expensive it turns out.
One of the biggest costs? Feeding the little beasties. Like the techniques that made last year's burger bioengineer Johannes Tramper's proposed method starts with a small number of stem cells taken from an animal.
So Tramper's idea brings meat-growing to a bigger scale. So far so good.
One bioreactor could make 25600 kilograms (56400 pounds) of meat a year Tramper a professor at Wageningen University in The netherlands calculates.
Assuming a person eats 10 kilos of meat a year nough for 968 burgers ne bioreactor could feed 2560 people.
In fact although one of the benefits of lab-grown meat is that it's not supposed to harm any animals for now growth medium requires animal products to make.
That's still not competitive with cow-grown ground beef. Plus it doesn't take into account other costs of running a bioreactor such as hiring three or four well-trained people.
Competition with normal meat is still a challenge says Cor van der Weele a Wageningen University bioethicist who worked with Tramper on the new paper.
In the future perhaps conventional meat will rise in price van der Weele says. That will help close the gap between in vitro and in vivo.
Both van der Weele and Tramper think it's important to study cultured meat to try to bring down its price
Cultured meat is one such alternative but so are textured vegetable protein or even whole insects Tramper wrote to Popular Science in an email.
and given public talks about the drawbacks of cultured meat. It's not clear yet that cultured meat is r will be ore environmentally friendly than meat cut from cows.
Dr. Ricky doesn't think it will be. We're talking about feeding cells running the bioreactor sterilizing the area the facilities we need to do all that he says.
Without numbers like those Tramper calculated for the price of lab meat Popular Science can't say
While many scientists have calculated the environmental footprint of beef no one has done that for stem cell burgers.
Reader Jay pointed out there is at least one analysis of the environmental footprint of cultured meat.
and we'll write about farmed vs. cultured meat footprints soon p
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